tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233624608324716679.post5822413278912109759..comments2023-11-28T07:20:38.556+02:00Comments on The Torah Im Derech Eretz Society: Gaza and CholeraUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233624608324716679.post-23901581844733085632018-12-02T12:20:25.694+02:002018-12-02T12:20:25.694+02:00Ad hominem attacks say a person is a this or a tha...Ad hominem attacks say a person is a this or a that. Name calling. If I call a comment ignorant, that's not ad hominem because maybe the person makes comments that are not ignorant. So you said the money was not spent on humanitarian aid. That is not correct. Half to 3/4 was sort of as I'll explain in a bit. But first this, in Israel people often say, Hamas spends all the money on tunnels. It's an ignorant statement. Even the IDF says they used to spend 3/4 on social services. I can cite the exaxt source if you want. After the war in 2014, they changed that to 1/2. And they don't spend the 1/4 to 1/2 remaining on tunnels. They steal some for their own bank accounts. They spend some on weapons. And some go to tunnels. And most of the tunnels are for smuggling, less are for hiding weapons and militants during combat with Israel, and even less are for terror launches - about a dozen. You have to be accurate that's all or we lose credibility. As for the term humanitarian aid, Hamas doesn't do anything out of humanitarianism. They are pure psychopaths or Amalek or whatever. So it is really buying off the people, but the point is it about 1/2 goes to the people even though it's all intended for them.GPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607644759658339566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233624608324716679.post-53471808551008109622018-11-30T21:47:29.555+02:002018-11-30T21:47:29.555+02:00So we agree! "They steal some and squander to...So we agree! "They steal some and squander too much on weapons and tunnels." Precisely. And somewhere between a quarter and half of their budget.<br /><br />Curious: why when I say it, I'm guilty of "ignorance, assumptions, and demonization." But when you say it, you're not. This all sounds downright....ad hominum. Avi from BM of TIDEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17434452164063875437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233624608324716679.post-1137374711686346402018-11-30T08:22:59.403+02:002018-11-30T08:22:59.403+02:00Hamas spends anywhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of its b...Hamas spends anywhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of its budget on social services. They steal some and squander too much on weapons and tunnels but how much does it take to support a broken down society of tw0 million people? A 1,000 dollars each means 2 billion a year. How much aid do they get. You have to do the accounting. I'm not interested in ignorance, assumptions, demonization of the other side any more. Do some homework and speak factually or hold your tongue.GPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607644759658339566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233624608324716679.post-11495289395211760152018-11-30T06:18:14.978+02:002018-11-30T06:18:14.978+02:00I'll assume we agree on the following facts, w...I'll assume we agree on the following facts, which, to my knowledge, are universally considered to be facts. Correct me if I'm wrong. <br /><br />The Palestinians have received billions in humanitarian aid. The money was not spent on humanitarian aid. The common people are very poor; hence, they do not have the money. Much of the Palestinian leadership are engaged in constantly upgrading their rockets, and constantly building tunnels, with which to kill Jews. It costs a lot of money to do this.<br /><br />Is it a huge leap to assume that a large part of the billions in aid went toward Palestinian leaders' attempts to murder Jews? Or is it just common sense?<br /><br />Avi from BM of TIDEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17434452164063875437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233624608324716679.post-4805176903651842222018-11-29T15:16:18.363+02:002018-11-29T15:16:18.363+02:00I'm not sure and I am trying to get out of the...I'm not sure and I am trying to get out of the game of assuming. You are saying the leaders took it. Do you have proof? Wouldn't surprise me. But do you have proof?GPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607644759658339566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233624608324716679.post-78906782262191196062018-11-22T04:17:01.101+02:002018-11-22T04:17:01.101+02:00Objectively speaking, hundreds of millions of doll...Objectively speaking, hundreds of millions of dollars have poured in to help the Palestinians over the last decades. Objectively speaking, other countries have used these methods to solve their water problems. So objectively speaking, the Palestinian leadership could have done the same. But objectively speaking, they have not.<br /><br />Any guesses as to where all that money has gone?Avi from BM of TIDEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17434452164063875437noreply@blogger.com